Traveling A Pathless Land

Krishnamurti: Seeing is very important, not only outwardly, but inwardly, seeing myself as I actually am-my greeds, my envies, my-my bitterness, my cynicism, my beliefs- I have to watch them. I cannot watch them if I am frightened or if I wish to change them, as I watch the tree. I can't change the tree, I watch it- not that I identify myself with that tree but then the-the observer and the observed, which is the tree, that is not the relationship of division. So in the same way-if one can look at oneself-without condemning, without justifying, without trying to wish it to be altered in terms of ideas and ideals-then you can look at what you are actually- so clarity comes not through- a wish- a desire- an ideal-but through actual work of observation and the actual seeing demands tremendous energy and actual seeing is in itself discipline, so clarity comes that way. Not through cultivation but through constant observation.

Our life at present is a turmoil, in a terrible mess and confusion and contradiction and we live in that, we accept that as the norm of life. But in understanding that, in bringing about a mutation which is the not the act of will but the act of clarity, the act of observation . . . death is not something apart from living because I cannot live in that sense which we are talking about if I live in the past with my fears, with my tradition, with my culture, with my gods and all the rest of it- life is always in the present, not in terms of giving life a significance intellectually or ideologically. Then I am living. Living implies a cessation of conflict, a cessation of sorrow. Then to live in that way I must die each day. If one comes to this point of living and dying- dying is living and living is dying. Then there is great beauty, there is an ectasy in this but you see . . . being afraid we want to find out what happens after death we're not concerned with living- if I'm concerned with living I want to find out how to live . . . one's life is a battlefield, an ugly mess. And we pursue escapses . . . drink, women . . . gods . . .

Interviewer: May we keep these supports and crutches while we need them and not throw them away altogether?

Krishnamurti: Oh for goodness sake (laugh). Of course one must throw them away, otherwise you keep them forever and ever.*

*From "An Interview with Jiddu Krishnamurti: BBC Transcript," quoted in Cecil, Rieu, and Wade, The King's Son, The Octagon Press, London, 1981.

Commentary

In this second part of the interview, Krishnamurti speaks out about finding Truth in daily life. In the first part, presented on 11/16, where he renounces his world wide role by dissolving the Order of the Star, he called Truth a pathless land, and goes on in this section to note the importance of seeing what is in front of you and living in the moment: free of all personal weights, thoughts, societal conditioning and fears.

In other discussions and frameworks- seeing what is in front of you- free of your own self is the sign of a Master and indicative of someone who has learned how learn. This is a spiritual traveler who temporarily sheds their every day personality so they can join with their Higher Self.  In doing this, they become a land unto themself where the Divine Breeze quiets and sweetens the air.

The spiritual traveler, having suspended or surrendered their need for the moment- dies so another part might live.

In our journey, religion is a starting point for in depth learning about life of the spirit.

Study what Krishnamurti has said; give it your whole heart and you will begin to embrace more fully your life and personal path;  seeing what is in front of you and leaving aside your fears, preconceptions and walking toward your own personal Truth- in a pathless land

Comments

[Guzmán]

Jiddu Krishnamurti telling a joke...

“There are three monks, who had been sitting in deep meditation for many years amidst the Himalayan snow peaks, never speaking a word, in utter silence. One morning, one of the three suddenly speaks up and says, ‘What a lovely morning this is.’ And he falls silent again. Five years of silence pass, when all at once the second monk speaks up and says, ‘But we could do with some rain.’ There is silence among them for another five years, when suddenly the third monk says, ‘Why can’t you two stop chattering?”

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[Stewart Bitkoff]

Shows how time is relative-when one is absorbed in the inner dimension; and everything comes from the One . . so stop complaining. Thanks for the comment/joke. Stewart

[radii shoes]

Very, very nicely done!